Arthur C. Clarke 3/9 ART MATRIX - LIGHTLINK http://www.lightlink.com/theproof PO 880 Ithaca, NY 14851-0880 (607) 277-0959 Voice (607) 277-8913 Fax (607) 277-5026 Modems homer@lightlink.com E-mail jes@lightlink.com E-mail 01/22/07 03:25am Dear Esteemed Sir, In the wee hours of the night, I am again compelled to write you. Although you have not yet received a complete and comprehensive overview of the problem, I believe I have sent you enough for your basic understandings in my very first letter. The subject matter is learning with certainty about causality. Learning with certainty that two different events A and B are causally related. Causality is a bit of a red herring, because certainty of ANYTHING is under question. For B to learn with certainty that A even exists however relates back to causality, because the WAY that B learns about A is via causality, A has to have an effect on B, or else A might as well not exist for B EVEN IF IT DOES. Thus if causality between A and B is in doubt, then so is learning about the existence of A, or anything else learned via causality across a distance. B learns about A via changes in state in B occasioned by A. B learns about A through A's effects on B, and if the learning about causality is in question, how then can anything learned through causality be certain? The issues here are quite clear. When two different objects learn about each other, they must learn by being an effect of the other, by changing state as a result of the other. However it is not a valid leap of certainty that just because B changed state, that this change had a cause; let alone that the nature of that cause belongs to the object A one is trying to learn about. Such trains of thought, that B can learn about A by changing state as a result of A's influence, are theories at best. Delusion about illusion at worst. We have the problem of tracking. Tracking is when the states of two different objects track each other. For example, light switch is on, light is on. Light switch is off, light is off. The state of the light tracks the state of the light switch. The state of the light switch comes BEFORE the state of light in time. Or light is on, light sensor is buzzing. Light is off, light sensor is quiet. The state of the sensor buzzing tracks the state of the light being on off. The state of the light comes BEFORE the state of the sensor. Two objects track each other because of a causal pathway between them. If there is no causal pathway between the two objects, then their tracking each other is coincidental, no matter how dependable or repeatable that tracking may be. We have here a very fundamental theorem that everyone knows, and everyone agrees with: Dependability of tracking does not necessarily imply causation between the two objects. There is followingness, that means B followed A. There is dependable followingness, that means B so far has always followed A every time we have observed both in operation. That is what we call tracking, the state of B follows or tracks the state of A. Then there is necessary dependable followingness, that means B MUST follow A and can do no other. Necessariness is provided by cause. Dependable followingness is not NECESSARY dependable followingness. Dependability is not guaranteeability. Only causation can provide necessary or guaranteeable followingness. Causation implies necessity and guaranteeability, and necessity and guaranteeability imply causation. Causation is DEFINED as necessary dependable followingness. However it is an immature mind that confuses mere dependable followingness with NECESSARY dependable followingness and thus with certainty of causation. Worse it is an audacious mind that having confused the two, then tries to assign the nature of the cause with perfect certainty to something. Learning is a kind of tracking. It is having an idea that such and such is true about something in the hope that in fact it is. One can 'know' via a number of different methods. Imagine a light bulb in a closed opaque box, and we wish to learn the state of the light, on or off. 'Guessing.' One can guess the light is on. That gives you a 50 percent chance of being right. 'Trust.' One can be told that the light is on by someone who claims to have seen it. This is more likely to be right, but is not perfect certainty as it depends on your level of trust in the claimer. 'Faith.' God can tell you the light is on, as he made it and can not lie, as his every thought becomes true in the thinking of it. Well if you believe in such things, you might want to consider this a good bet, but would you bet your eternity in hell on the light being on just because God said so? Would you also bet everyone else's eternity in hell on the matter? I think not. Again direct perception of the matter and perfect reverifiability is missing, and thus perfect certainty is lacking. 'Indirect observation.' Your light sensor is screaming over in the corner. Ok, now we are coming close to something that might be called a reasonable scientific hypothesis, as long as you trust the circuitry in the light sensor, and also trust God not to be playing God at that moment, interferring with the laws of physics. But even barring this last, there is still no perfect certainty, because one can not possibly verify with perfect certainty the proper working of the light sensor. Indirect observation is actually a kind of trust, trust in the theories about physical law and that law's dependability rather than the word of another being. There is an interesting theorem that says a machine or any mechanical system can never verify the integrity of its own circuits with perfect certainty. Even if the machine has a correct circuit diagram, and two or more video cameras that can see each other and into every circuit in both the cameras and the machine, the machine can still never know if everything is working the way it should be. It is always possible that some circuit is wrong that makes it look like that circuit is right when it isn't. This is a major theorem in artificial intelligence and goes completely unnoticed by some. 'Direct observation.' You go look at the light and see that it is on. Ok, so now we are as close as close comes to having a high scientific probability that the light is on. But even then with a clean observation one could be imagining, dreaming, or hallucinating. Just because I hear the sensor screaming does that mean the sensor really is screaming? One could be imagining. One could be asleep and dreaming! I have personally woken up out of 7 levels of dreaming, each one as real as this world we live in now, each time convinced it was the real world. I still wonder sometimes. What we call 'direct observation' is of course not direct observation at all, as the eyeball and retina and brain form just one more causal pathway and level of indirection no different than trying to see the world through a video camera or a light through a light sensor. Circuits could be bad all along the way including in our brain, giving the impression of one thing when the truth is something else entirely. So where in all this is perfect certainty that the light is on? There is none, because we are dealing with two different objects, observed and observer, each one separated by alleged spacetime dimension and causality that itself can not be seen directly and thus not confirmed nor confirmable. Effects are not sufficient to witness cause with perfect certainty. Effects are thus only sufficient to allow one to theorize and hope for the best. Jane's Law: "Causality is not sufficient to witness causality." So causality always remains a theory. Thus the mechanics of space and time are not sufficient to witness the mechanics of space and time with perfect certainty, thus the mechanics of space and time remain forever a theory even to themselves, ie things made out of space and time. No space time gizmo can ever know if it is a space time gizmo for sure, because a space time gizmo can't know anything at all for sure. In the dream state we see a conscious experience of a light, it LOOKS real, but there are no photons at all, and certainly no light bulb made of glass no matter how much it looks there is one. The dream is self luminous, the light bulb in the dream does not light the objects in the dream, even if turning off the light in the dream makes the objects go dark! It's all just a coordinated hook together. I have had dreams where I turned the dream light on the dream table off, and the room stayed lit! Just so in the waking state, we trust we see the alleged physical universe through our self luminous conscious pictures (conscious renditions) of it. We have perfect certainty of the self luminous pictures, but not of the alleged referents in the physical universe. All day long when we are awake we TRUST that our conscious experiences are causally connected to our sensory inputs, eyes, ears, etc, in such a manner that we can trust that what we experience IN OUR CONSCIOUSNESS represents accurately what is 'out there.' But this is trust, not perfect certainty. But notice. WE ARE PERFECTLY CERTAIN OF OUR CONSCIOUS EXPERIENCE! We SEE the red, green and blue and we know we do. We can't be wrong about that, as we SEE that we SEE. We are using our conscious experience to learn about the alleged external physical universe. Where there are two different objects, namely one our subjective conscious experiences of things, and two the alleged corresponding objective physical referents, one can never learn with certainty about one by looking at the other! One can learn with perfect certainty about the subjective conscious experiences of things, but never the things those experiences purport to represent to us. We can be certain of the Messenger, but never of the King. One can never learn with perfect certainty about the physical referents by looking at the conscious experiences (renditions) of them in our consciousness! However we can see our conscious experiences directly, and direct observation always leads to a perfect certainty. The conscious self can learn what it is conscious of (color, sound, etc) with perfect certainty. It can learn of its own existence, and its own personal agency or causitiveness. In other words the direct perception of self luminous consciousness IS sufficient to witness cause. Take a look at any two different colors around you, that's a perfect certainty. You may be imagining, dreaming or hallucinating the objects, but THE HALLUCINATION IS CERTAIN! The *EXPERIENCE OF REDNESS* is certain. The experience of pain is certain regardless if it is imagination, dream, hallucination or born of sensory input from some actual harm in the body. The implied existence of an external physical universe referent out there behind the redness however is not certain. I see a piece of red paper on my desk, perhaps it is a hallucination, perhaps there is no red paper on my desk, perhaps no others will see that paper there, because it isn't there, but they nor I can possibly doubt that I SEE IT IN MY CONSCIOUSNESS. Thus in the parts of us that are a machine, our eyes picking up photons, our lens, retinas, optic nerves, brain pathways, visual cortex etc, there is no certainty at all, not even that these things exist. But in the part of us that is not a machine, our consciousness, we know that these conscious things exists with out question because we can see them directly. Seeing red is direct perception. Attributing seeing red to some alleged piece of paper in the physical universe with photons of a particular frequency bouncing off of it via indirect perception (eyes), is conjecture at best, delusion about illusion at worst. Conscious seeing is always direct perception. But direct perception implies that perceiver and perceived are one and the same object, even if it LOOKS like there is space between me and what I am seeing. Our consciousness and its 'color forms' (including all senses) are the only things we can know that we see, because we can see ourselves seeing them. Seeing ourselves seeing is infinite reverifiability which is mandatory to perfect certainty. A machine can not do this. A machine can try, but it would take forever to complete a perfect reverification of any state, because it would be using a second state in time to verify a first state in time, and thus it would fail in the end. A machine can not see at all, let alone see itself seeing. A machine can let one video camera paint pretty pictures of the alleged external world on its insides, and it can use it's other video camera to paint another picture *OF THE FIRST PICTURE* on its insides, but that just creates a second state that vouches for a first state, neither one of which produce a certainty of what they represent. In the first place the second state is AFTER the first state. The machine could then point its cameras at the second state and produce a third state that would vouch for the second state, but it would yet again be later than either of the first two. And two different events in time can never vouch for the causality between them no matter how much the second state claims to have been caused by the first state. And the machine can continue to do this, using later states to vouch for earlier states, but this only leads to an infinite progression in time that never produces a single certainty in any of the states and takes FOREVER to complete! True self awareness is a moment that verifies itself in the SAME MOMENT! That is a very big statement, never been made before. So dig it and don't leave it. Thus a machine can not be self aware. A machine can be 'aware' it WAS 'aware'. A machine can be in a state that indicates maybe it was in a prior state. A conscious unit can be aware that it IS aware. Conscious self luminous certainty is all in the single now. The conscious *NOW*, proves that the conscious now *IS*. You can't be RED, with out BEING. Consciousness doesn't use a second state to prove the existence of the first state, the first state is SELF PROVING. And this is a timeless process or else it would never complete. The time between being conscious-of, and being conscious-of being conscious-of, is zero. If it weren't zero you couldn't see it, as you can't see something directly that is in the past, something that is separated from you by a distance in time. CAN A MACHINE LEARN OF ITS OWN EXISTENCE? We can ask a simple but convoluted question. Can a machine learn with perfect certainty that it itself exists? Well this would involve the machine existing and being in some various states or another. But then the machine would have to OBSERVE itself existing by indirect observation via its external video cameras to observe itself, thus giving rise to a SECOND state in the machine indicating it as evidence supporting it's conclusion that it existed. This second state must be causally related to the prior existence of the machine, because without causal relation the machine is not learning, its just guessing. But because the machine can not witness that cause directly, it can only trust that its circuitry is working properly during its observation of itself, and thus can only attain a level of trust that the second state now actually tracks its existence BECAUSE of its prior existence a moment of time before. When ever a second state or object is used to track a first earlier state or object, there CAN BE NO PERFECT CERTAINTY in the second object about the first object, because direct observation by the second object of the first object of the NECESSITY of the dependable followingness between them is missing. The second object never has direct perception of the first object, nor of the causation between them. Until you can prove there is cause between A and B, you can never prove anything at all with perfect certainty about either by looking at the other. Thus learning about A by looking at B is silly. So what this comes down to is a problem in two different objects or states. "Two different" anythings are limited to learning about each other via cause and effect, and since effect doesn't prove cause, they may never attain certainty of the other. Thus if there is going to be a certainty between learner and learned about, learner and learned about must be one and the same object! And the learning, learner and learned about must be one and the same event. Cause and effect happening simultaneously in the same moment of time. You can't learn about an cause by looking at its effect, because by the time the effect happens, the cause IS GONE into the past. That's indirect perception, looking at now to determine the nature of the past. Indirect perception can never learn about the now by looking at the now. Only direct perception can, but that means the effect and the cause that the effect implies are both NOW and exist at the same time. When cause and effect both exist at the same time, each instantly and continuously reverifies the other, because direct perception can see both at the same time and the NECESSITY between them. Being one and the same object means there can be no space between them nor any time! Any form of dimensional separation between A and B guarantees that A and B are two different objects. Two different objects can only learn about each other via learning by looking at the second one in time (the effect) and trying to theorize what might have been true about the first earlier one in time (the cause). Thus the search for certainty is not towards greater and more dimensions, but towards zero dimensions, or no dimension altogether. A zero dimentional object is called a scalar, it has no dimension or size at all, its not small, size doesn't apply. Only a scalar can engage in direction perception of itself across no space and no time. We understand easily how we learn by indirect perception, such as using a light sensor to learn about the light. But it boggles our brain trying to understand how *ANYTHING* could ever learn anything by direct perception. If A and B are the same object, how does direct perception work? The 'How?' engine in the brain is designed to handle cause and effect sequences on an evidential and theoretical basis, it KNOWS there is no certainty in this. Indirect perception results in theories only. A theory consists of Model and Evidence. The effect NOW is the evidence there WAS a cause. The cause that we conceive to 'explain' the effect, is the model we use to 'explain' the asserted and hoped for necessary dependable followingness between them. However ask the how engine in the brain 'How can we produce a perfect certainty through direct perception' and it will break, because it only understands indirect perception via sequences of cause and effects separated from each other by distance in space and time. To most people of advanced learning, 'indirect perception' is redundant, and 'direct perception' is a self contradicting oxymoron. However indirect perception produces no certainty or self luminosity, yet both certainty and self luminosity are self evident in the conscious unit, not only in its perception of the color forms around it, but also in its perception of it's self and personal agency between desire, will and final action. Thus we call this process direct perception, even though it may presently remain incomprehensible to our 'How?' engine in the brain, as to how it works. Certainty IS consciousness, consciousness IS certainty. There can be no certainty in the absence of consciousness, and there can be no consciousness in the absence of certainty. That is a very big statement. But you guys are too busy digging and not leaving the prior big statement above, so I won't overwhelm you with this one. In the presence of separation caused by dimension between two different objects, there can be no certainty-of and there can be no consciousness-of. If A is separate from you, you can never be conscious of A, you can only be conscious of some *ALLEGED* but unprovable later effect of A IN YOURSELF, namely your conscious experience of A! Thus certainty and consciousness can only exist when an object is learning about itself, but not by cause and effect! At least not when cause and effect are two different events separated by space and time, such as when a machine turns its video cameras on itself to learn about itself. Certainty and consciousness are more like a spaceless and timeless moment where cause and effect are one and the same event. Following the lead of Einstein who called our universe a single entity of spacetime we offer to call self luminosity a moment of causeeffect. Causeeffect is when there is no spacetime between cause and effect but each knows with certainty which is cause and which is effect in the same moment of spacetime. Then we can have learning about our own existence, our own cause, our own personal agency, our own data screens of conscious color, with perfect certainty. Your faithful servant, Homer Wilson Smith, who hates the term causeeffect with a passion, but who can't escape the verity of self luminous consciousness. All hail the great RED AND GREEEN which is lit by nothing. but themselves and their perceiver. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com Sat Aug 11 00:41:14 EDT 2007