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Re: Camels and Llamas (was Re: Perl 5/ TkPerl)

merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
: >>>>> "John" == John Stoffel <john@avante.WPI.EDU> writes:
: John> Once perl5 has entered Beta, I'm sure Larry and Randall will be
: [my mom spells it with one L... blame her.  urgh.]
: John> writting the new edition of the "Programming Perl" book.  But don't
: John> hold you breath.  I wouldn't be surprised if it takes until the end of
: John> the year to get it out, more likely early '95.
: 
: I wouldn't be surprised either.
: 
: At this point, the "writing committee" is looking at:
: 
: 1) a *heavy* rewrite of the Camel to update it to Perl5.  We are
: leaning towards slimming down some of the tutorial stuff because of
: the existance of the Llama (which we didn't have when we wrote the
: Camel).
: 

This one gets my vote.  Especially if there is a section called "Perl
Internals" (or somesuch ("Camel Guts"?)) that tells how to interface Perl with
other languages and how to add your own functions to perl, etc.

: 2) a *very light* rewrite of the Llama to eliminate all the things
: where I said "I think Perl5 will do *this*".  Now we *know* Perl5 does
: all those (and more :-).
: 

I vote for this one too  :-)

: 3) a *new* book: "Learning More Perl" (working title) or "the alpaca
: book". (that won't be the animal, that's just the file I have ideas
: stored in. :-) This is a sequel to Learning Perl, covering the rest of
: Perl4 and *all* of Perl5.  Perhaps "Learning Perl++" would be
: better. :-)
: 

Learning More Perl could have the stuff I mentioned above and then I'd have 
to buy two books instead of one..... I'll give you one guess which I'd
prefer.  :-) (Sorry merlyn, I didn't buy the Llama, I figured I have enough
dromedaries on my bookshelf :-)

: The priority is roughly as indicated above, although there'll be some
: overlap.  This writing stuff is hard work. :-)
: 
: Don't expect a new camel before the end of the year.  Of course,
: I might have to say the same for Perl 5....
: 
: print "Just another Perl hacker," # but not what the media calls "hacker!" :-)
: # legal fund: $1182.57 collected, $11835 spent; email @FUND in body for details

I haven't sent you any money yet (But my boss has.  Look for the $$ from 
Corpus Christi TX).  I promise that you'll get $100 of my next paycheck. :-)
(Of course, if this is some elaborate hoax on your part (you wish! :) I'll
expect a full refund :-)

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Best of Wishes for Randal!  :-)

-Scott
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