************************************************************************ The following first appeared in the private email list IVy-subscribers, which is available to all those who subscribe to the printed magazine, International Viewpoints. 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Well, here and there the seasons are changing as this solar-powered solar satellite that we call Earth continues to orbit that small star we call the Sun, carrying in relative comfort six or seven billion human bodies, each of which is seeking with all its might and main to survive. Yes, that's quite right: if there's any one thing that human bodies are dedicated to, whether you wish to call it a n urge or a goal or an intention or a purpose, it's the goal To Survive; and as you can see, en masse and in the face of great threats to survival, the human race of human bodies continues to increase at an alarming rate. And like any species that has lost its optimum numbers in connection with its environment, great damage has been done to the nest, the environment, the ecosystem, the sustaining or non-sustaining Mother Earth, and if population projections are at all accurate, and in spite of the assurances that technology will rescue us, overpopulation remains one of the greatest threats to both our planetary environment and that species or race called Humankind or the human race or the species called human bodies. The intensity of the urge to survive in human bodies is on the one hand both awesome and wonderful, and on the other hand is both awesome and frightful. Fortunately or unfortunately, unfortunately or fortunately, these human bodies have also been endowed with a form or type of intelligence that is rarely found in any other species on this planet, that is not just the intelligence of instinct and survival urge but what has come to be called "intellect" or powers of reasoning, thinking, ratiocination, etc. etc. And this power of thought accompanied with the body's never-ending urge for survival has led the human race to some of the most wonderful and most awful imagined happenings. A great deal more could be said about these matters, and perhaps will and should be, but as L. Ron Hubbard pointed out in his early works, which by the way are just as timely and instructive and filled with useful information coming from very deep insights, now as they were fifty-plus years ago. When something, anything, interferes with the survival urge of an organism, whether it be as tiny as a single cell or as big and complicated as a complete human being, trouble, aberration, mental, emotional and physical difficulties, ensue if the interference or aberrative counter-efforts that are against the instincts and urges to survival of the organism are not removed or handled or overcome, so that the urge to survive along the organism's various dynamics can take place. These ideas are very simply and clearly expressed in Mr. Hubbard's early works, and it is with some regret that I've come to find that a fair number of folks haven't availed themselves of the opportunity to read these works and acquire a better or more basic understanding of what Dianetics and its little or bigger brother Scientology are really all about. To continue, a few words should be said about the notion that in connection with the human being, or perhaps in its essential makeup, there is something called a soul, a spiritual entity, a non-material consciousness, a thetan, a viewpoint of or from the Eighth Dynamic, the Prime Source, Static, God, "That which has no name", etc. etc. etc.; and that this entity can and routinely does confuse itself and its nature with the human body/mind/animal whose primary urge is to survive; whereas this entity, unlike the human body/mind, does not have , repeat DOES NOT have the same instincts, urges, toward survival, but when thoroughly confused can lose sight of what it really is all about, and take on all of the characteristics of human mind/bodies, to the point that it can no longer consciously remember or feel its own nature. This confused composite often and sporadically behaves in very horrible contra-survival ways, which harm not only the human race but the planet itself. And so, early in the history of Dianetics and Scientology, it was thought that if these confusions could be straightened out, the means for creating a sane species on a healthy planet would ensue. and looking at the effects that were possible using Dianetics and Scientology with a given individual, and sometimes even small groups, it looked like, back in the last century in the 1950's, that the goal of a fairly clear human race and a healthy planet, in which the intelligence required to ensure such accomplishments existed, could be achieved. But I'm sad to report that after 50-some years of this possibility, things for the human race, from this viewpoint, are still pretty confused and chaotic, with much unnecessary pain and suffering. On the other hand, I'm pleased to report that the great effort to understand the difficulties and to clear them up for both individuals and the human race has never died or diminished as an idea, and the possibilities still remain in the long term that the hope will eventually prevail. As I say, that's from this viewpoint. I could just as easily point out, and I think make a pretty good case for, the idea that the Earth just as it is, without changing a hair on its blue-green surface, is and always has been a playground for immortals, and for immortals to be at play, they have to pretend that they are not immortals, and in fact end up pretending so well that it's almost impossible to recover their immortality when they wish to. But whether they remember or not, whether they can get back in the immediate sense to being immortals (by the way, all of which would spoil the game), what's really going on is OK and exactly as designed and agreed upon, and there's no sense in paying any attention to the cries of "foul" or any of the other pleas that the game is unfair to many and only fair to a few, and if you can play this game while pretending not to be an immortal, you have the guts, the courage, and the abilities to do so without fear of effect driving you to try to become immortal again so as to either be able to take unfair advantage of others or escape without further penalty being paid. I like this last message a lot, and at times I'm quite convinced it's closest of all to the truth, but that's probably just my favorite delusion, or illusion. Anyway, I hope a few of my friends and others witll write in their thoughts about these matters, so that the IVy-list's famous Philosophic Corner can once again come to life and we can have that particular kind of pleasure and interest that the word and the action of philosophy enjoy. As ever, Mortal/immortal ** Home Page: http://home8.inet.tele.dk/ivy/ - with extensive links to FZ! **