Hullo Pierre, Thank you for your prompt response. The expression " Go forth and multiply" goes much earlier than the likes of Woody Allen. By the way, I never introduced him into the conversation.( Robert is guilty of that) I personally think he is one of the unfunniest people around and his behaviour in respect of his adopted daughter has not won him any friends. Sorry to hear your Spiritual Team is on a leave of absence forever, it sounds like you could use their help. Also, you are not going to get away with making a sweeping statement that " I threw LRH tech into the bin". I have said before and will say again, his early developments were awesome. They were the bedrock of a lot of technical advances by others since. However, from 1965-67 onwards, there was a shift within the organisations whereby the tech became applied for the benefit of the org, rather than for the individual. The watershed came with the introduction of the Ethics conditions and then the switch to attestation to completions. In July 1967 we piloted the ethics conditions in Las Palmas. They were savage. Ron decided to "water them down" as the public and org staffs simply could not handle them. The concept behind the conditions was covered on a 1965 tape. This was magnificient. It really gave us a way to spiral out through the top. But the formula application , as applied in the orgs, became totally abused. The early clears (and later on, those completing OT2) were checked by the Clear Checker. This was quite an event. On completion of the Clearing Course, you were sent from the Advanced Courses room in the Manor basement to Qual. There you were picked up and taken by the Clear Checker back down the hill to the Manor and into a secure room. A special meter was used. It had been exactly calibrated and was only used for Clear Checks. On the way down the hill the word began to go out- There was another clear in the offing. In that room, you were put through certain steps, this took about 45 mins.Once the Clear Checker was satisfied, once you were satisfied, and everything was as it should be, the Clear Checker told you " Congratulations, you have attained the State of Clear". (The OT2 check took about 2 hours. Only a few of us ever had it) Then you were escorted back up the hill to Qual. By now, there was a crowd gathering around the Manor and followed up the hill. In Qual, the Clear Checker made a public statement that you had achieved the state of clear. It was a fantastic moment. The accaimation was overwhelming. Everyone took pride and joy in the moment. The org took responsibility for it's product. On the Friday, there was a Graduation Ceremony in the Chapel. This was packed out, people cramming around every window. Hubbard had purchased a ship which went to Valencia. It was on board the ship that people were to do OT3 and the other levels. The perceived intention was that it would take months to complete, in a secure environment. All this changed. Ron brought in the attest line. The first candidates came on board for OT3. Within three days the first person attested OT3. We were shocked. After that there was an avalanche of people flocking to the ship to get through their levels, up toOT 6 and doing it within a week or so. This was an absolute technical degrade. The attention switched to selling OT levels as fast as possible to bring in the money. The fact of the matter is that the OT levels were never intended as case gain. That was to have been achieved on the grades. The purpose of the OT levels was Thetan rehabilitation exercises. We were a small technical unit. Bill Robertson was the Chief of Advanced Courses and I think it broke his heart to see what was going on. I have no doubt this was in his mind when he stepped out and began his own research. My post was Case Cracker. At that time I was the highest trained auditor in Scientology. I was the only full Class VII with honours. You would never believe the absolute unreality that people had about running their beings around them. A classic example was one guy who sat it session with a rolled up newspaper and tried to "swat" the beings as they left! In Review, it was invairable that the person had falsely attested. This brought an automatic condition of Liability. All around the ship you could see the rich and famous, some with their trouser legs rolled up, ladies in high heel shoes, mopping out the crew toilets, scrubbing pans, scraping varnish. God knows what they thought they had let themselves in for.! There was even an unreleased OT level. It was entitled "The Final Step". Only a few of us had seen it. The problem was that it required a person to have made a proper completion of OT6, complete with evidence. Only a couple of us achieved this. So, there was no point in releasing it as there simply were not the numbers to deliver it to. The ship bent it's propellers against the harbour wall and Ron went incandescent. As part of his tantrum, he ordered the destruction of these materials as "the world doesn't deserve them". >From there on, the org produced a continuing stream of overt product. The baserock for the grades was a full and honest communications release. In your time in Scn, how many GENUINE comm releases have you come across.? I admit that I have probably been guilty of making too sweeping a statement that " all tech from 1965 was crap", but that does apply to quite a portion of it. So, does this sharpen the picture for you ? Best wishes, Nev