SORRY!'s People who insist on going about collecting "Sorry!"s from other people usually get stuck with other people trying to collect "Sorry!"s from them. No OT needs a "Sorry!" from anyone, and can hand them out forever for free. At best a Sorry results from a broken agreement, and is an effort to mend the agreement in order to stay in agreement. That's cool, but long term agreement is the death of an OT. Being able to *GRANT* full repsonsibility for condition is part of being able to *TAKE* full responsibility for condition. Homer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith Clear Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth and Peace. Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com