There are two basic views on this list. 1.) Hubbard had an evil intention to enslave which more or less succeeded. 2.) Hubbard had a good intention to free which more or less failed. Evil Intention Succeeded Good Intention Failed Most of the opp comm on this list is about this dicom. My view of course is that Hubbard had a good intention to free which failed for absolutely standard tech reasons and which can be fixed with absolutely standard tech solutions. It is not questioned that there may be better technical solutions both to the Church and to the problems of life at large, it is also not questioned that "standard tech" is itself petrified, corrupted, booby trapped and contradictory and in need of grand code review and rewrite from the bottom up. Standard Tech Version 2.0 But any Scientologist free to speak his mind can put in the Auditor's code and basics on the whole mess and clean it up and do it right. Those that postulate that Hubbard's basic thrust was an evil intention that succeeded, depsite the fact that they are our eternal friends, are not worth talking to, or having on this list except as laboratory examples of dramatizing and computing psychotics seeing the world through their own Nemesis One colored glasses. They deal *ONLY* in minimization, ridicule, contempt and 'spin'. They deal with destruction rather than correction. They can not correct, as there is nothing there to correct. There is nothing wrong with pointing out out-points and 'sits', i.e. greatest departures from an ideal scene. We can start here, the foundation of Hubbard's insanity. "Competition is a trick of the weak to fetter the strong." Fair gaming the competition out of existence JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPETITION is an evil solultion to a good problem, because without competition no one survives. "The way to survive is to make everyone else succumb" is a classic service fac item and a rock slamming item on Hubbard's case. *CLEARLY* Critics and disaffecteds are out ethics auditors who refuse to audit a dog pc. Their endless natter-natter-sub-natter is mere justification. That's fine, no one is forcing anyone to audit here, its a free willed activity. One doesn't OWE the dog pc a good session. However if they take action which leads to control and oversight over auditing and bio feed back devices by the government, AMA, WHO and Psychatric Zombie Lords then they are to be fair gamed out of existence with Class until they come to their senses and abandon the path of descruction for the path of correction. "Class is an attitude, that ALL should live forever and be my friend." "Cool is the ability to maintain Class." "Desire is Sovereign." Homer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith Clear Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth and Peace. Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com