EXTERIOR AND THE SOVEREIGN STATE This piece references a number written on a 3x5 card taped to the back of the preclear's head every session. When he exteriorizes, he should be able to tell the auditor what the number is. This doesn't mean he can see next door, but it does mean he can see the back of his own head as it actually is. Homer LR1467 (lr1467@aol.com) wrote: >Ext from body is no guarantee of ext from mind. PC could take occlusions with >him as well as consids that he needs eyes to see with. So not seeing the >number wouldn't prove anything anyway. Yes of course, but with the number there, you could catch those who have full perceptics. Roland said he could see the back of his head, he probably has more evidence than he is willing to admit, should run the incident R3R. Maybe a speck of dandruff on his back collar he saw, he could have checked it out later when he stumbled home. That would be a joke no? See the evidence, bypass it, then complain forever afterwards that he needs Proof! I have been auditing Interior-Exterior extensively. There are many levels of interiorization. One can get out of body and be in the physical universe, or one can get out of the physical universe, or one can get out of UNIVERSES, etc. This physical universe probably has a heavy track of suppression about getting out of the body, as that gives one immense and dangerous physical universe powers, to perceive into other people's business and be invisible yourself etc. Forget moving the marble. No money in that. Power lies in PERCEIVING. This universe, other universes, co universes, higher universes, lower universes, other beings, melded beings, spiritual teammates etc. If you look out there and all you see is a wall, there is something you are not perceiving. Run, "Something not being perceived?" So the being exteriorizes from the body and suddenly is faced with overwhelming fear, fear of finding out, fear of being found out, mustn't perceive lest they come and do it to him again, etc. The being has an ARC break about having been in a body and believing he was mortal, but he's too scared of being out to find out why he is in! So he tries to find out without getting out! If he does get out, he takes a quick non look around so to speak and jams back in again, usually on sympathy for the body etc, and then can't be gotten out again. That may be the next higher exteriorization kicking in and needing to be run. He just got out of his body and it was too scary, so he went back in and now he's trying to ext from the physical universe completely while still inside his body. Well that's workable, and fools the THEY he is so scared of. but he's gotta spot that's what's going on. So each universe had a reason for interiorizing into the universe within it, and finally into a body, and that's a lot of pressure to stay in and not get out. But if you exteriorize to the Sovereign Universe before universes, then its just peace and yourself and your desire to engage space time for thrill and romance. Its SAFE there, because no one is forcing you to come in, no one is chasing you, no one is punishing you, executing you forever and ever, burying you, entombing you etc. All there is, is you and a whole hell of a lot of Class. Now you take this poor meatball and exteriorize him from his body, and suddenly his whole world view changes, whaddya know the world is a dream and I didn't know it!. But he starts asking questions, questions can kill you, what am I doing here, who, how, what, where, when, why, which, and he also runs into his ridge about perceiving the answers to the questions, very deadly consequences to answering any of them, and so he is stuck exterior wanting to know and not daring to know lest THEY pick up that he has found out and knock him out again for another trillion years of suffering thinking he is made of meat. So he goes back in and won't come out again. But I think that means he needs now to exteriorize at the next level up, ext from the physical universe, the next dream up, where maybe the same thing will happen, and then he exts the next dream up, until finally he exts to his Sovereign state, at which point the *FEAR* goes away. He still doesn't know, but he finds one safe place in all of existence, namely himself, and that provides the infinite confidence to start facing all the reasons he shouldn't be exterior lower down. So later he is auditing again, and starts to get lose in his body, and the fear turns on and he says "Oh to hell with this!, Come get me you big over blown asswipes." Joke is, when the fear ridge is gone, they can't grab him, he's just a ghost to them! So I would surmise that the process of ext with full perceptics, involves ext from all known and unknown universes all the way back up to Sovereign state, and then he has the confidence to come back down and start getting out of each layer one by one. You know Sovereign State doesn't have to be this huge super nova explosion, you can just touch it for a second, total beauty and wonder and peace and healing etc, and suddenly you KNOW what you can do and how to do it, even if you don't know who you are or where you are. Probably many people have touched this state and bypassed it, it needs to be rehabbed and recognized or else the rest will stick. Homer