EXTERNAL CAUSE Pardon my rearrangement here for the general audience. Homer: Hey Pip, Seems like you are still caught up in external causation, eyes, brains etc. There is no cause between avatars in a computer game. The dream eye doesn't see when asleep and dreaming, and it doesn't see when awake either. The sun doesn't light the world, and things don't change because they affect each other. The static choreographs the kinetic 24x7, there is no cause between outward objects at all. Never has been, never will be, CAN'T be. Static creates illusions of cause between the kinetics. Pip: Thanks but no - I really do get this. I wasn't writing my doctoral dissertation on dreamball theory. I don't know who is actually reading these posts. People in general have no undestanding of the fact that however you look at it, we live in a virtual reality, much less the ramifications of that. I was communicating to Curiosus and the general crowd that cannotmake this leap easily. I usually start by convincing someone that the world is a virtual reality. It's just a first step. Some words have to bridge the illusory gap. The illusion of external cause and effect is accepted as real and beyond doubt. If they can get what I said, we can move forward. I don't think many people would actually get what you wrote below, although it is clearly obvious to you. This is a very profound paradigm. However you have stated it very well. I talk about this stuff a lot.I use the computer game metaphor all the time. However I do often lapse into meatball thinking. :) I'm working on it. Sovereignty, awareness of, is the issue. Homer: Absence of external cause is the issue. Sovereignty follows naturally from that. Homer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink (607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com Sat Apr 10 15:31:22 EDT 2010