Homer: >> All Consciousness is a pock mark on the face of God. Ouran: >Very pithy! Well said! It's tone made me laugh aloud too! :) Well its not original with me, came from a Sufi book called 'The only dance there is'. It flies in the face of the dicom pushers like Carol who insist that God is Good, True, Beautiful, Light etc, that all Evil, Lies, Ugly, Darkness comes from man and that we should all strive to become like God forever and ever Amen. I mean how far can you push dicoms on a one way flow before you go nuts? The essence of auditing is to find the dicoms one is dramatizing, see that each dicom is a pair of wings around a central void, and visit the void once in a while. The void is the Thone of the Author. Again we run into the problem of unmanifestation, is the void Good? Well it sure beats suffering forever. But from the void comes both Good and Evil in a tapestry of authorship. So is that good? Are Author's good? The answer is, there are two kinds of good, Godly good and human good. "Virtue for the Creator is not Virtue for the Creature" - Olaf Stapleton, Starmaker Is the Creator Good? Should the Creature strive to be like the Creator AS A CREATURE? If a creature created other creatures and put them on a planet to fight out their wars of ignorance and free will, would we look upon that as kind? So again we have this problem that there are two classes of dicoms, the dicoms that describe the Native State (Creator) in its unmanifest phase (Peace, Truth, Beauty, Goodness), and the dicoms that Native State Manifests such as Good-Evil, Truth-Lies, Beauty-Ugly. Hubbard said that theta was natively closest to Beauty, thus in some way aligning the top of the tone scale and total unmanifestation with Beauty, and the bottom of the tone scale and total manifestation with Ugly. In this sense all dicoms are actually dicoms of UnManifestation descending down into Manifestation, where UnManifestation are all the positive dicoms like good, truth, beauty, light, peace etc, and Manifestation is all the negative dicoms like evil, lies, ugly, darkness and worry. This drives the manifestation pushers crazy, for they are selling "But Manifestation is GOOD!" Adore says that all persistence is of persisting lies. There is a common tendency to give both sides of all dicoms equal value and weight. Love is one side, Hate is another, who cares which one you choose? Adore says this is not true. Adore says that all positive dicoms fade away into sleep at the top of the tone scale. Descend into dream time and you get peace, beauty, love, light etc, descend further and you get worry, ugly, hate, darkness etc. The whole scale is a scale of Truth and Lies, where Truth is sleep and total unmanifestation, and everything lower in dreamtime is some lie creeping in or another. Love is therefore more right and desirable than Hate, but the Peace that Passeth all Understanding in the Big Snooze at the very top makes Love look like hell. The question then remains, why would the unManifest decide or choose or find value in Manifesting nothing but lies and pock marks on the face of God? Adore's answer is relatively complex and esoteric but it all boils down to one thing "Humor", it feels so good to get Home again, one is glad one left. Adore says "SAFE is Hell and High Water via Eternal Omni Awesome Peace." This says that there is no place to go, no place to get lost to, so we are always 'safe' no matter where we are, and that we cycle back into hell and high water after visiting eternal omni awesome peace (big snooze) because of this impulse to manifest humor. We spend most of our time in Hell and High Water. Humor is basically high appreciation for ludicrous demise. Ludere means game. All manifestation is ludicrous demise. Majesty (Master of Jest) is the impulse towards creating humor via ludicrous demise. Adore says that Majesty is the only thing that can bring the total unmanifest, living at the top of all positive dicoms, to manifest and engage in the negative side of those same dicoms. If it weren't for majesty and the impusle towards humor via ludicrous demise, the peace that passeth all understanding would never move into manifestation, not even to experience love, light, beauty, and goodness. "ALL consciousness is a pock mark on the face of God." So if we consider Native State as Author/Creator, we can see that Beauty, Goodness, Truth, and Peace for it, is to create a world of stife between the worldly dicoms of similar name but completely different character. Goodness for a creature DOES NOT include the impulse towards creation of humor through ludicrous demise for itself and everyone else. So the worldly dicoms of good and evil are in fact wings of a dicom that have a central void to them, which is the Author's throne, as he can cast entire universes into existence at will using both in tapestry. Is it evil to create a tapestry of good and evil? Is it good to create a tapestry of good and evil? Is it Humorous? Adore says yes it is humorous, and it is that added component of Humor that renders the Godly goodness different from the human goodness. God has no compassion as humans understand it. God knows no one can get lost forever or hurt forever, and God only writes universes for himself anyway to jump into. So yes God has a kind of compassion, he KNOWS he is infinitely and eternally safe, but its not the kind of compassion that humans take kindly too nor even understand. "Who me? *I* certainly never did this to myself!" "I couldn't have, wouldn't have, shouldn't have, and if you suggest I did, I will nail you to a cross until you admit you didn't either!" That's human 'goodness' for you. Homer